Deadlifts for physique athletes - what's the deal?

Hi! I'm looking to collect a few perspectives on this issue from serious, competitive physique athletes.

​

Is it true that the fatigue::productive stress ratio on deadlifts does not justify their inclusion in the lifting programme of a post-novice physique athlete? Is it true that the productive stress generated by DLs are too "spread out" among all the posterior muscle groups to the point that it is more productive to spend the training time/energy on more sets of more slightly more isolating movements like rows/chins/shrugs? Does the fatigue from DLs make it significantly more difficult to squat with the frequency and volume required for a physique athlete to progress?

​

The biggest pro-DL argument from physique-oriented lifters that I have heard is that it is the only truly quantifiable lift for the back (its too easy to cheat rows and chins), and that it is a big beefy compound with what should be a big carryover to back size/thickness, as well as the best movement for the spinal erectors and possibly the hamstrings.

Does this community have a consensus opinion on this?

Do you program DLs regularly? Which muscle group do you think they are most important for?

Hi! I'm looking to collect a few perspectives on this issue from serious, competitive physique athletes.​Is it true that the fatigue::productive stress ratio on deadlifts does not justify their inclusion in the lifting programme of a post-novice physique athlete? Is it true that the productive stress generated by DLs are too "spread out" among all the posterior muscle groups to the point that it is more productive to spend the training time/energy on more sets of more slightly more isolating movements like rows/chins/shrugs? Does the fatigue from DLs make it significantly more difficult to squat with the frequency and volume required for a physique athlete to progress?​The biggest pro-DL argument from physique-oriented lifters that I have heard is that it is the only truly quantifiable lift for the back (its too easy to cheat rows and chins), and that it is a big beefy compound with what should be a big carryover to back size/thickness, as well as the best movement for the spinal erectors and possibly the hamstrings.Does this community have a consensus opinion on this?Do you program DLs regularly? Which muscle group do you think they are most important for? https://ift.tt/eA8V8J

Submitted November 28, 2018 at 11:33PM by Ben_Hargrove_ https://ift.tt/2RncLnF